War has always happened, and will always happen and we can't stop it. Ernest Medina, key figure in My Lai Massacre, dies at 81 by TheeNay3 in EasternSunRising [–] kfighter 7 points 8 points 9 points 2 years ago * (0 children) Wheres his grave? They have harrowing stories of fleeing the Russians mere hours before they occupied the home town. 1. Related Articles. I'm in 12th Grade, (17 years old), my great-grandfather fought on the allies side during WWII, and died during the course of the war. seq 6: captain ernest medina: "i wonder how many people in the country last night as american citizens or people in the state department or the generals in the army had a good night's sleep last night. We must all be firm in our stance against racism and violence. Admiral Wilhelm Canaris was a hero. Wars are fought over territory. Fuck you. Out of the initial 109 murder charges, Calley was convicted of the murders of “at least 20 civilians”, and he was sentenced to life imprisonment for his crime. Just because you pick up a gun and put your life on the line doesn't mean you're a hero. By this logic, Franco, Hitler and thousands of war criminals would be worth honouring. Because everyone I know has totally missed the point of Remembrance Day it seems. Related Articles. We invaded Iran for their oil. Veterans day in the US is for honouring veterans of wars. I mean, we've killed somewhere between 98,691 – 107,707 civilians in Iraq. united states army captain ernest medina denied on wednesday (1 april) a charge -- made only a few hours earlier -- that he was responsible for the premeditated murder of all south vietnamese citizens alleged to have been killed in the my lai incident in march, 1968. description. Rhodesia became a republic in March 1970; The Chicago Seven are found not guilty of conspiring to incite riots at the 1968 Democratic National Convention On the agenda for the participants to consider was a determination of genocide. Are you fucking retarded? William Laws Calley Jr. (born June 8, 1943) is an American war criminal and a former United States Army officer convicted by court-martial for the premeditated killings of 22 unarmed South Vietnamese civilians in the Mỹ Lai massacre on March 16, 1968, during the Vietnam War.Calley was released to house arrest under orders by President Richard Nixon three days after his conviction. We remember those who fought and died to protect the freedoms and life we enjoy in our country today. The men who stopped the massacre, the men who received hate mail for doing it. Rhodesia became a republic in March 1970; The Chicago Seven are found not guilty of conspiring to incite riots at the 1968 Democratic National Convention They celebrate Remembrance Day, and for much the same reason that more thoughtful people from the Allied side celebrate Remembrance Day. The Medina Standard, which states that a US commanding officer aware of a human rights violation/war crime, will be held responsible if he does not act. Not every German was a Nazi, and not every G.I was a hero. They were fighting because they were told too. Thread starter Salazar67; Start date Jun 10, 2019 Jun 10, 2019 You don't fight dirty, you don't kill when you don't need to. Medina died on May 8, 2018. Calley didn't deny taking part in the slayings on March 16, 1968, but insisted he was following orders from his superior, Capt. It's equally stupid to look at the war and only honour Allied dead. You rant on about American combat and American atrocities in a Canadian forum. before my eyes rolled so far back that I was staring at my brain. MILWAUKEE — Former Army Capt. Or just because he's fucking there? Too many people I know look at World War II and assume every German was either Oskar Schindler or Himmler. reddit; stumble upon; tumblr; delicious; google buzz; email this video to someone; tweet; short summary. However, he was acquitted. We'll never be able to stop people from enlisting, becoming soldiers and being shipped off to fight wars. I just think we've lost track of what we're supposed to be remembering. He served during the Vietnam War. Simpson; heiress, kidnapee and convicted bank robber Patty Hearst; Boston Strangler Albert DeSalvo; My Lai massacre soldier Ernest Medina. It is also called the Funky Cold Medina Standard. The former Marine fighter pilot has been America's prototype celebrity lawyer for 40 years, defending the rich, the notable and the notorious: accused wife-killers Sam Sheppard, Carl Coppolino and O.J. my subreddits. En tant qu'êtres humains, nous devons tous continuer à faire mieux universellement: Continuer à luttre contre le racisme et la discrimination partout. The Allies did not fight the nazis to defend their freedom; they fought them to defend their country. We were allied with Soviet Russia, Stalin probably killed more people during his reign then Hitler did, BEFORE the Holocaust. The men were killed, while many of the women were also raped, their bodies mutilated, and their children slaughtered right in front of them. Indeed. Being a hero means fighting for a worthy cause, fighting for justice and for PEACE, not because a poster told you the Hun is a bastard and he's going to kill your family. And that's perfectly fine, but don't forget that true justice and freedom are not won by killing people. He was a German in WWII, who helped save over 95% of the Danish Jews from deportation, and probable death in concentration camps. Besides the fallen soldiers, there are many, many more fallen non-soldiers, civilian victims of war, many of them children. The men who stopped the massacre, the men who received hate mail for doing it. Nous devons tous être fermes dans notre position contre le racisme et la violence. Why am I ranting on this? For the record, Calley didn’t deny taking part in the My Lai Massacre on March 16, 1968, but has always insisted that he was only following orders from his commanding officer Capt. No. The US military (and I'm sure other countries do the same for their own) covers it up when their soldiers abuse other American soldiers etc., I can't imagine them complying when an American has committed an abuse against anyone else. The Army’s investigation into My Lai involved 45 members of Medina’s company, including Calley, suspected of atrocities. Ernest Medina spoke at a memorial service the evening before the massacre and laid out plans for an all-out assault on My Lai. Kent State massacre (5/4/70) → Author: spirit. Ernest Medina Medina, the Charlie Company commander who grew up poor in New Mexico, had a reputation as an aggressive officer who urged … It wasn't a war of Pure Good vs Pure Evil. FlossCat 78 points 79 points 80 points 3 days ago . Captain Ernest Medina is charged by the U.S. military with My Lai war crimes (3/30/70) French submarine ‘French submarine Eurydice explodes underwater, killing entire 57-man crew. Canada is in Afghanistan. Saddam was terrible, obviously. And only one of the men behind this atrocity, the My Lai Massacre, was ever punished.In the months before the massacre, the American soldiers at fault ha… It is a notion that many including the former prosecutor of the trial have repeatedly rejected. Hugh Thompson, Jr. and his crew. Remembrance day is about remembering the horrors of WW1 and then later WW2 was added. Why does it matter? I know right? Is this a really long troll attempt? On the eve of the attack, at the Charlie Company briefing, Captain (CPT) Ernest Medina told his men that nearly all the civilian residents of the hamlets in Sơn Mỹ village would have left for the market by 07:00, and that any who remained would be NLF or NLF sympathizers. You know who's a Hero? Fuck Ernest Medina in the strongest way possible, Press J to jump to the feed. Right now. Now, OBVIOUSLY, that doesn't mean what the Axis did was in any way justifiable. I'm sick of looking around my school, and seeing the kids who think war is cool, killing is cool and our chief export is liberty and justice and heroes. Just after dawn on March 16, 1968, a company of U.S. Army infantrymen, led by Capt. And isn't it a little stupid in this day in age to think that every single guy out there in Afghanistan, in Iraq, is a hero just because a bomb hit him? The United States, Canada, all the other numerous countries backing them, all the rest who've put troops on the ground. Ernest L. Medina, a key figure in the My Lai Massacre during the Vietnam War, has died in Wisconsin. Is Ernest Medina a hero, just because he fought for America? Schindler was a hero. Isn't that a little fucking unfair? Think of Nelson Mandela. Share this on Reddit; Share this on VK; Share this on Digg; Share this on Linkedin; Posted in Uncategorized Post navigation. Records relating to or mentioning to Ernest Lou Medina (August 27, 1936 – May 8, 2018), who was a former captain of infantry in the United States Army. $17.00. Anyone heard of the Biscari or Canicatti massacres? Share this on Reddit; Share this on VK; Share this on Digg; Share this on Linkedin; Posted in Uncategorized Post navigation ← Captain Ernest Medina is charged by the U.S. military with My Lai war crimes (3/30/70) U.S. postal strike – largest Wildcat strikes in U.S. history (3/18/70) → Author: spirit. Standing alongside them, are heroes, those who believe in justice and freedom for everyone, the freedom of speech and compassion. We only remember the dead from our side. We've been there since 2001. Ernest Medina. Most of those kids at the front probably didn't give a shit what they were fighting for. Description. Captain Ernest Medina is charged by the U.S. military with My Lai war crimes (3/30/70) French submarine ‘French submarine Eurydice explodes underwater, killing entire 57-man crew. However, he was acquitted. Captain Ernest Medina, one of the United States Army officers charged with murder in the "Pinkville Massacre" at the South Vietnam hamlet of My Lai on March 16, 1968, returned to his home of Montrose, Colorado on Thursday (August 13) in search of character witnesses. Fuck no, of course he's not. That just makes you a killer. I live in Canada I mainly wrote this out of frustration after attending a Remembrance Day assembly at my high school, and seeing a lack of respect for veterans outside of Canada, particularly those on the Axis side. On March 14, a popular company sergeant and two others were killed by a booby-trapped 155mm howitzer round outside My Lai. It seems your school mates have picked an unfortunate interpretation, but that will likely change. You fight for freedom, you fight with honour. What followed was the Philippine-American War, a savage exercise in jungle combat.After suffering heavy casualties from Philippine insurrectionis… Otherwise, you're not doing it right. Why did they stop it? In WWII men and women died doing their job and all should be considered and remembered, regardless of what uniform they wore. These are just some famous examples. Although the Americans viewed themselves as liberators, Filipinos had been struggling against Spanish imperialism for years. But just because you're fighting, it doesn't instantaneously make you a hero. However, under pressure from thousands of very vocal, very patriotic, and very pro-war Americans, President Nixon pardoned him within weeks of the verdict. During the Spanish-American War in 1898, American forces captured the Philippines. There are countless heroes among these victims. edit subscriptions. Because that's what you fucking do when you're a hero. Ernest Medina, a key figure in the 1968 My Lai massacre during the Vietnam War, speaks at a news conference at the Pentagon on Dec. 4, 1969. This man was on the "Bad Guys" team, and yet he saved god only fucking knows how many people. Of migrating through a war shattered Europe, begging for food and hiding the young girls from soldiers (both sides). War is necessary, it isn't fucking cool. Now what about heroes? It is named after the prosecution of Captain Ernest Medina, in relation to the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. Wars are not fought for things like justice or freedom. Remember the words that appear on war memorials the world over: Never Again. It's shouldn't need saying, but it's nice to anyway: Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. Around 150 Canadians have been killed in Afghanistan. Because that's what you fucking do when you're a hero. jump to content. "Now you're going to get your chance," Terry recalls Medina saying. There are no winners in war; everybody loses. On March 15, 1968, members of the 23rd Infantry Division’s Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry, were briefed by their commanding officer, Captain Ernest Medina, ahead of an operation in an area they knew as “Pinkville.” As unit member Harry Stanley recalled, Medina “ordered us to ‘kill everything in the village.’” Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. F. Lee Bailey got his law degree in 1960 and built up quite the roster of clients. You know who's a Hero? Here's where I would respectfully disagree with you: War has always happened, and will always happen and we can't stop it. At the risk of feeding a troll... You go on and on about heroes and honoring the heroes. We can however change the way we fight it. Fuck no, of course he's not. He tried to get explanations, approaching Capt Ernest Medina. Ernest Medina — … The u_ErnestMedina community on Reddit. It was just war. He was the commanding officer of Company C, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry of the 11th Brigade, Americal Division, the unit responsible for the My Lai Massacre of 16 March 1968. I think of the sacrifice young men and women made (wether you like it or not) defending our country and our ideals. Share this on Reddit; Share this on VK; Share this on Digg; Share this on Linkedin; Posted in Uncategorized Post navigation ← Biafra capitulates, ending the Nigerian Civil War (01/12/70) The Chicago Seven are found not guilty of conspiring to incite riots at the 1968 Democratic National Convention → Author: spirit. Who the hell is he? Think of the Dalai Lama. He was joined by a Vietnamese interpreter, demanding ‘Why are you killing civilians?’ But Medina refused to speak. I don't believe that every person who wears a uniform is worth honouring. Is Ernest Medina a hero, just because he fought for America? Hitler needed to be stopped, as did Mussolini, as does every dictator in human history. I welcome opposing/critical/thought provoking comments and I'll be the first to admit, I'm not an expert on anything. Medina and all the other shooters of the 500 dead Vietnamese went free. We dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. According to many of the soldiers in Company C, Medina ordered the killing of “every living thing in My Lai,” including, obviously, innocent noncombatants – men, women, children and even farm animals. by [deleted] in wikipedia. Francis Lee Bailey Jr. Wiki Biography. Remembrance Day exists not to glorify war but rather to remind us of the horror of war, in my opinion. War is necessary. Capt. On March 16, 1968, U.S. Army soldiers acting on orders from their commanding officers massacred several hundred innocent Vietnamese civilians. Why did they stop it? Maybe you should think a bit more yourself. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Canadian soldiers were not involved in Iraq or Afghanistan. Medina … Simpson. But what have we done to improve the place? They did not take kindly to one imperial power being replaced with another. I am thankful to be alive in this day and age, I'm thankful to all those who have died to protect what I believe in. Reddit gives you the best of the internet in one place. Press J to jump to the feed. It doesn't appear in any feeds, and anyone with a direct link to it will see a message like this one. As humans we must all continue to do better universally: Continue to advocate against racism and discrimination in our communities, whether online or our neighbourhoods. Uhm. But it's just plain fucking stupid to look at the war and believe all of Germany deserved to burn for what Hitler and his Party did. However, like most events worthy of consideration it is open to interpretation, and that is both a strength and a weakness. Georg Ferdinand Duckwitz was a hero. We're being portrayed as "The Good Guys" constantly, despite all the death and bloodshed we've caused by intervening in the first place. By this logic, Franco, Hitler and thousands of war criminals would be worth honouring." when humanity stops allowing itself to be ruled by religions and capitalists, then we will be free from wars.. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Of course there were heroes. Hugh Thompson, Jr. and his crew. The trip is aimed at collecting depositions for use in Medina's court martial which is scheduled to begin on July 26. The Medina Standard, which states that a US commanding officer aware of a human rights violation/war crime, will be held responsible if he does not act. And being a hero doesn't mean you killed 20 kids, here's a fucking medal for it. One of the families I'm closest to are immigrants from a country that doesn't exist anymore and whose family fought on the Axis side. First off, this is just my opinion. Francis Lee Bailey Jr. was born on the 10th June 1933, in Waltham, Massachusetts USA and is a famous lawyer now retired, who served in a number of major cases from the 1960s, most famously ii the case of O. J. Background:Captain Ernest Medina, who faces charges in connection with the My Lai massacre, left the United States with his attorneys yesterday for Vietnam. Huh, I didn't know legislation could be comedy. There are people in the army, every army in the world, who have joined just for the chance to fire weapons, to kill people. I don't usually write stuff like this, it was mainly a way for me to vent my frustration. And how is it not just going to all turn to shit when we leave? He was 81. And not just that. I could only make it this far into your story "I don't believe that every person who wears a uniform is worth honouring. He defended Sam Sheppard (the inspiration behind The Fugitive), Patty Hearst, the Boston Strangler, Ernest Medina (who faced a court martial for the My Lai Massacre), and noted Buffalo Bills running back O.J. Think of Gandhi. God only knows how many thousands upon thousands of uncredited heroes there are, living or dead. His unit killed over 300 innocent Vietnamese in the My Lai Massacre. In a second investigation, 30 individuals were looked into for covering up what happened in the village by “omissions or commissions.” Twenty-eight of them were officers, two of them generals, and as a group they stood accused of a total of 224 offenses.
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